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I just attempted to make a webcomic in photoshop, screwed it up, and tried again in sai with the same results. There's too many little things I rely on heavily that only Flash seems to have.  Most notably, resizing/transforming something in photoshop or SAI makes it look pixelated and ugly, as does zooming in on it. Isn't that what vector art is all about?

I have always drawn overtop of a scanned and imported sketch, but I still have to resize, drag, twist and stretch every single thing I draw a dozen times before it looks right. I also rely heavily on being able to recolor something with only a single click or two. Is there no way to make flood-fill work in these programs like it does in Flash? Coloring by hand might be the right way, but it aggravates my carpal tunnel too quickly.

Lines in general look to soft in these programs, actually, no matter how I configure them.

What other drawing programs could I try?

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:iconskeevy:
I use GIMP, it's freeware (type it into any search engine and it'll pop up!) and it meets all my needs at least. To be fair I have absolutely no idea what most of the people in this thread are talking about...fancy art editing language that is. I upload, resize, minor edit and then post my art with this program, and from the trial version I had of photoshop a long time ago it is fairly comparable. I like it. If nothing else, give it a shot. :)
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
Someone probably said this, but I think basically your only hope is to trace over your lineart with vectors. I don't know much about this, though, because I don't want vector line art personally.
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:iconscythemantis:
~scythemantis Mar 18, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I always trace over pencil art, yet STILL see dozens of things to keep fiddling with every time : p
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
If you traced over it with vectors, you could fiddle away to your heart's content. That's the point of a vector, they're completely scalable and never get fuzzy or weird.
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:icondusk-of-noir:
~Dusk-of-Noir Mar 18, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Manga Studio is pretty good if ya ask me.
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:iconmonster-man-08:
One thing I found about the paint filler is that if you have a dark background, it fills better, none of that fuzzy white outline.
I've had the outline as it's own layer on top, and on 'Multiply', so the dark background shows through.
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:iconspydrxiii:
~SpydrXIII Mar 17, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah try illustrator like others are suggesting (even though i still can't figure it out) or try use the ';PEN' tool in photoshop not the ';pencil' or 'brush'. i do belive the pen is a vector tool in photoshop.

also for brushes have opacity and flow set to 100% and make sure your using the the sharp round brush not the fuzzy soft round brush. and erase the messed up lines. but i have a massive problem with making smooth sharp perfect lines like everyone else seems to be able to do. because i sketch more then draw so i have very rough lines :(.

and for coloring non cell shaded i scoured the internet and picked up some helpful advise.

.opacity: 40% / flow: 60%

.use a darker color or completely different color for a base then use the lighter colors to slowly build it up. (like the base for my sazaeoni was dark green but i painted it tan for a more varied skin color)

.i find shading to be easier on a much lower opacity like 12% or 17% or lower.

.sometimes it's fun to turn the opacity and flow back to 100% and set your brushes 'other dynamics' on (set opacity jitter and flow jitter to pen pressure and keep the jitter levels at 0). with CS3 the brush tab on the right holds you 'other dynamics' options along with other things like 'wet edges', 'shape dynamics' and 'texture'. doing this will make the brush seem more like real paint. i used this brush on my newest doodle scrap 'Doomdles: The Brushening'.

hope any of this helped. 'cause judging by your pencil work you have the ability to be a great painter, and i wanna see you get there.
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:iconscythemantis:
~scythemantis Mar 17, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
downloaded illustrator...and can't even get it to draw, lol. It's making weird dotted lines that turn into keypoints, or something, no matter what tools and settings I pick :/
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:iconspydrxiii:
~SpydrXIII Mar 18, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
yep, that's how it works. you draw like that and can bend the lines around to further tweak them. i find it hard and more like drafting then art, but it's a popular vector tool i guess.
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:iconscythemantis:
~scythemantis Mar 18, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
it's definitely a big ole headache
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