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So, I've been having fun calling out more DA nazi-fanboys and one of them accuses me - I shit you not - of lacking "honor" for reporting him. Being a coward, like they all always are, he blocked me in a huff after leaving a final response, but I've prepared a reply nonetheless: bogleech.tumblr.com/post/36174…

This, by the way, is the forum he and some of his pals a proud member of: vnnforum.com/

I don't think people realize how serious a problem these types are. They're tolerated all over DA under the notion that what they choose to believe and express deserves the same freedom as what everyone else believes and expresses, which is like saying that a murderer or a rapist deserve to be "tolerated" for their own cruel and harmful choices.

These people whine that they're being oppressed, that they're being met with intolerance, that their rights are being infringed when they're silenced, as if it somehow doesn't matter that they are the ones who first go out of their way to hate entire innocent demographics. Even an ANIMAL can eventually grasp that good behavior begets good treatment and bad behavior warrants punishment. Yes, I am prejudiced against the prejudiced. That's not hypocrisy. That's how every single human being on earth should feel. Respect is only for the respectful. Tolerance should only be for the tolerant. The loving deserve love and the hateful deserve hate. COMMON. SENSE.

I would absolutely love to live in a world where some kind of brain-scanner could identify the homophobes, racial supremacists and intolerant religious nuts and just lobotomize them from space. This Orwellian nightmare despot would be completely worth submitting to just to never see this type of trash get away with its repugnant ideas ever again. :)
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mrddixon Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2014
the answer to hate speech is More speech, not less
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Pandadrake Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Buddy, don't get into fights with internet neo-nazis. It's not worth your time. Most people with hate-complexes are people with deep-seated inadequacy issues who have taken social rejection as a sign that the offender is inferior (or else feel inferior themselves), or have no awareness of/empathy for social injustice, or have serious problems empathizing with human beings, or are brainwashed by some shit, or have never lived in a place with ethnic/gender diversity, or really have nothing they can feel proud of besides being born.


Having a belief is not consensual, but the experiences that change them must be. Confronting them on a forum where they have anonymity will just make them stubbornly burrow down like zerglings and fight/whine back.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, but when someone responds to me with something dumb and racist, I just have to call them out...and I think this went pretty well, with all the fail trolls stumbling over themselves in the comments here :)

I try not to get involved but sometimes this stuff is unavoidable.
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Bellum-Anguis Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
"I would absolutely love to live in a world where some kind of brain-scanner could identify the homophobes, racial supremacists and intolerant religious nuts and just lobotomize them from space"

waait wait wait. How does this make you any better? Than Nazis I mean.
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Omny87 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
All the people targeted by Nazis didn't have a choice in being gay, Jewish, disabled, whatever. Racist fuckbags chose to hate others for arbitrary, superficial reasons. Racism has no place in a sane, civil society, and deserves nothing better than to be wiped out from human thought without pity or hesitation.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
The loving deserve love and the hateful deserve hate. COMMON. SENSE.

Way to kill common sense right there.
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theawesomeflee Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
A shame what this world has come to
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parrotman3384 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
All racists are stupid. If you are one, congratulations...you're an idiot. You aren't a brave soul forcing unwanted truths into the ears of the unwilling, you are a knuckle dragging moron who needs to take a running leap into the closest wood chipper.
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Mesklinite01 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Sorry for a second post. I normally don't get this worked up about drama on DA, since it mostly involves people 'stealing' original Sonic characters and all that nonsense, but this is the first time I've really witnessed racism rear its ugly head on DA.

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I don't know how to respond to the people on this site who show these awful views, since its the first time I've truly been sickened by something on here. It's also the first time I've seen anyone in real life making journals about how they should be proud that they are racists, and that racism is perfectly natural. The person who posted the hateful journal apparently supports Breivik, for crying out loud.
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Never, ever go full retard, dude.
Just, don't.
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Mesklinite01 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013
YEAH it sure is retarded when people promote good will to all and speak out against racism
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"I would absolutely love to live in a world where some kind of brain-scanner could identify the homophobes, racial supremacists and intolerant religious nuts and just lobotomize them from space. This Orwellian nightmare despot would be completely worth submitting to just to never see this type of trash get away with its repugnant ideas ever again."

Last time I checked, that wasn't the poster child ideal of promoting good will to all.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I get sick of being told that I have to be "better" than these people. THEY DON'T CARE about our positive "example." They don't respond to anything but the same hostility they dish out. Passively loving each other won't make bigots go away...their effectively declare war on humanity with their baseless hate and war is what they deserve :p
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The deal is, most of the people who are arguing with you, you've obviously offended personally... and that would only be the case if they felt personally attacked.

Does that not register as a warning sign that the 'people' you 'meant' to refer too, might not be as black and white as you are portraying them to be?
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If someone gets offended by me saying that racists are scum, they're admitting to being proud of their racism. Is that really someone whose feelings deserve concern? These people think their right to free speech means that their hate-speech inherently deserves respect and acceptance.
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"These people think their right to free speech means that their hate-speech inherently deserves respect and acceptance."

You're taking it upon yourself to decide who deserves to be treated like a human being and who doesn't? When people are racist, they are avoiding concern to that ethnicity and their feelings, yes. However, you just admitted to doing the very same.

You went full retard, as I mentioned first off, because you assume that racists don't deserve free speech, respect, ect, because they are using it to belittle others. Yet, you're sitting there at your computer, practising the same hate by misusing your entitlement to free speech. And when others disagree with you, or other wise, disrespect and refuse to accept your opinion, you completely disregard the irony in this situation; in this very conversation.

What does that make you? Maybe not a racist, but certainly not a better person, and in no way in a position to judge others for their hate.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You're taking it upon *your* self to say they deserve positive treatment. Isn't it rather selfish to insist that your way is the "right" way by nature?

There is no irony or hypocrisy here.

A racist hates innocent people for being born different. A racist hates people whether or not they ever lifted a finger or threw a cruel word in their direction.

This means that a racist is NOT innocent. They cast the first stone. They take it upon themselves to make enemies. Hating them is in no way the same as their hatred for others. They hate for no reason, and that is a form of cruelty. Cruelty IS a good reason to hate someone.

If somebody tries to physically hurt you, are you "just like them" for hurting back in defense? Of course not.

Proportionate retaliation is justified to me. If you don't think it is, good for you, but you can't go around saying that your way is objectively "good" and mine objectively "bad."

Your opinion that I'm "not much better" than them for hating them back is no more valid than my opinion that I'm ABSOLUTELY better than them for hating them back. In my opinion, people who DON'T hate them back are bad people. They're giving up the world to them. They're rolling over and letting these disgusting excuses for humanity continue bullying others just for being a different color or a different sexuality. A good person would never stand idly by and just "accept" that as "another view." A good person would fight and refuse to show them an ounce of mercy until they're willing to see their own evil.
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Omny87 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013
You're taking it upon yourself to decide who deserves to be treated like a human being and who doesn't? When people are racist, they are avoiding concern to that ethnicity and their feelings, yes. However, you just admitted to doing the very same.

Yeah, except "racist" is not an ethnicity. Hating someone for what they look like and hating someone for what they believe in are two completely different things. Racism is an opinion based on a gut fear of the unknown, held up only by flimsy excuses, lies, and a bastardization of science and philosophy. Though the fear of the unfamiliar is hardwired into most everyone, no one is born a racist. There's a big difference between a child thinking "Huh, that guy is brown. I've never seen that before. That's kinda weird" and an adult thinking "I hate that person because he's a filthy nigger! He's different, and that makes him evil!"

Racism is a learned trait, and many who are racist are proud to be racist, even though hating people based on stupid, arbitrary physical traits is a primitive and ass-backwards way of thinking, useless at best and destructive at worst. It has no place in modern society, and deserves absolutely no amount of respect. The only thing racism deserves is to be eradicated completely, reduced to an ugly chapter of our history books.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL. You're really getting upset over an impossible hypothetical fantasy scenario?

Besides, it's targeting people who openly claim they would love to see entire races and demographics exterminated forever. What's unfair about making the same blanket statement about their ilk? :)
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You'd know if I was upset. It's not something that'd come in different shades.
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Mesklinite01 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013
Haha you mean you actually took that seriously? He's mentioned many times before, even to the people who called him out on it, that he wasn't being serious and that it's just another example of the hypocritical humor he likes to inject into things.
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"...just another example of the hypocritical humor he likes to inject into things..."

And yet the basis behind the 'humour' still stands. His reasonings are selfish at best, and certainly don't have everyone's best interest in mind. He only proves it further by turning his 'cause' into a laughing stock.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Someone doesn't have a concept of parody, satire, or the sardonic at all.
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Someone doesn't understand the concept of communication barriers.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Context cues and overall dialog choice makes sardonic humor obvious enough in text. People who have trouble reading sarcasm online probably have trouble reading it in person and just don't realize :)
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Mesklinite01 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013
Well, he originally writes his journals for the friends who watch him. He wasn't expecting a bunch of racist morons to see it and take it seriously.
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HolyFrap Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh the woes of public statements
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mattypoo5000 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There's a major difference between being a nazi and being a rapist or murderer LOL, that was an absolutely terribly inaccurate comparison.
Sadly for you, you will never learn that people aren't going to change their minds because you don't like them. The fact that you go around reporting neo-Nazi's on deviantART (which is pointless, dA will likely do nothing to enforce your self-important ratting out of racists) in order to make yourself feel like a super hero is pretty fucking funny, but mostly you just seem like a whiny baby crying for acceptance and attention. Intolerance for intolerance is absolutely hypocrisy, you're only fueling the fire. Now the butthurt neo-Nazi's and the butthurt social justice warriors will crawl out of the wood works and continue their stupid ass bickering and fail to change anything. Both sides of this e-war are fucking retarded, but you in particular, well you're certainly a piece. I understand your distaste for racism and bigotry, and for the most part I agree - but truth be told, you have not made a single dent in their mentality, and you never will. You're just being an internet bitch.
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revereche Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
>There's a major difference between being a nazi and being a rapist or murder

Lol Holocaust

In fairness, I'm sure only some of them were rapists
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mattypoo5000 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, because every neo-Nazi on deviantART openly participated in the Holocaust..... lol.
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revereche Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, we're including neonazis in that? I'm sorry, you're only taking on the names and principles of murderers! MY BAD
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AbandonedAmbition Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It's sick to see the kind of shit and people (sorry for the redundancy there) you're describing. I agree 100% with the intended message here.

Oh, and if you encounter anymore "so your answer to hate is to hate herp derp" comments, you should explain to them that you're dislike is justified and grounded in the fact that their actions are inherently scorn-worthy.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I've explained that about a thousand times to some of these lunatics, they continue to maintain that hating someone back is exactly as wrong as their initial hatred. Apparently they have no idea how the world works.
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AbandonedAmbition Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Then perhaps speaking sense to the senseless is futile.
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EverboundVenvel Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Professional General Artist
Not to mention the SUPER CLASSY ten-second demotivational poster Nazi Guy made using a photo yanked from an image search.
Just...The language and implications in that image. Ugh, it makes me want to vomit.
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MaxterandKiwiKing Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I find white supremacy,black supremacy,and any concepts of racial superiority to be a waste of time and energy.I know a lot about the constant religious arguments,and I don't really have a side on the gay rights argument(I don't want any part in it).Though,you might find this hard to believe since I'm a white,strait,christian(a combination you find in most white supremacists).Also,the part about the "lacking honor" part cracked me up:It's as if the Aryan Brotherhood is taking notes from the Bushido Code. :meow:
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Toastbat Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
This is fucking hilarious. I just can't believe people like this exist, but HERE THEY ARE. SPEWING DUMBASSERY ALL OVER.

Save this post and its comments for posterity, man.
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Marsuwai Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Who are you going to lobotonize next? And what will protect You from the Orwellian nightmare despot?

That aside, where do you draw the line? I am a global eugeneticist, but I am no nazi, simply because nations and races have no room in a global approach, any bias towards any nation or race would only protect the unworthy.

If you wish to discuss political views, we can do so at length.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's a hypothetical, hyperbolic fantasy scenario. Obviously if it happened my way there would be some degree of mercy and forgiveness for anyone capable of reason.
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NeiniTheLord Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Scythe would BE the Orwellian nightmare despot. Also he would give everyone free kittens and spiders.
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Mesklinite01 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
I think all the people who are attacking you on your journal must have entered our world from some weird 'anti-universe' or something.
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MamimiFista Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
I recently had a backlash on my politics blog from some Aryan fanatics. All I can really think to say is exactly what I wrote of the mean person who would not stop messaging me, and that is, "It makes me wonder what went so horribly wrong in this person’s life that they would rather see hatred in everything and would completely throw love and compassion out of the window? And on that note, how weak of a personality and how weak must this persons sense of right and wrong be that they let hate take over like this? If they hate others whom they do not even know, how much do they hate themselves? Now THAT is some sad shit right there." Just remember that these people hate themselves more than you and I ever could, more than they hate Jews, and LGBT folk, and P.O.C. folk, even. They hate because they do not know love, and that is just depressing. One cannot argue with people who only know fear, hate, and cruelty - all we can do is hope that they stop hating. I know all I have to say about it is that I hope that they find peace one day and stop reflecting their own self-hatred onto myself and others. Sorry to go all hippie on you, but real talk - these people need help, psychiatric help.
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scythemantis Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
but they can never hate themselves ENOUGH to make me HAPPY! They need to hate themselves hard enough for me to GET OFF ON IT
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Scutigera Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think self-hate is necessarily at the root of most racist mentalities. It seems more likely to me that racism would be caused by a desire to simplify the world by dividing everyone into "us" versus "them." Whatever is the cause of these people's extreme, irrational, dangerous hatred toward millions of people they've never met, I also hope that they will someday overcome it and become well-adjusted, decent human beings.
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MamimiFista Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
I can see how you come to that conclusion. And I agree. Perhaps not all are self-loathing, maybe many are just narcissists, and maybe others are just too simple minded to comprehend that which is different. But yeah, regardless, they need HELP. I cannot bring myself to hate people like that any more, all I know is that they are suffering and inturn making others suffer and that is sad.
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MamimiFista Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
*deflecting, even ha
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Scutigera Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Boohoo, white tears.
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MamimiFista Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
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Scutigera Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
So, so relevant.
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MamimiFista Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
White tears FOREVER!
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